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Date Posted:17/11/2005 01:36:44Copy HTML

Hello you all. I have a 4 litre dodge 1993 model phaser. Does any one know how i would go about running on vegetable oil as i use it daily and i am now skint due to the greedy engine.Thanks
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Re:VEGETABLE OIL?

Date Posted:20/11/2005 02:09:55Copy HTML

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Hello you all. I have a 4 litre dodge 1993 model phaser. Does any one know how i would go about running on vegetable oil as i use it daily and i am now skint due to the greedy engine.Thanks

             Hi There.    There was a lot of info on the site about the veg oil topic probably in the

                                     archives (Tech pages 2 & 3 etc).      Good luck.

                                     PS.How greedy are you talkin ?       You should be gettin bout 22- 26 mpg     if you keep the speed to    about 56-60 mph.      

                                     Depending  on what axle ratio you have or what size Body your Dodge is lugging around.

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Re:VEGETABLE OIL?

Date Posted:20/11/2005 05:14:57Copy HTML

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Hello you all. I have a 4 litre dodge 1993 model phaser. Does any one know how i would go about running on vegetable oil as i use it daily and i am now skint due to the greedy engine.Thanks
Hi Shippynatl.   -  -  Before changing to veg-oil, I recommend adopting every other means of fuel economy first. See archives. For our Dodge 50 Pfaser we  save almost 50 % on fuel  when compared to its factory supplied condition, but still use diesel fuel.                                                                                                                  The other week, we had a 10yr old truck in for repairs, a direct injection which had been running on veg-oil fir the past 6-months.    Serious con-rod bearing and piston damage was the result.    Cause : Veg-oil had caked-up an injector so much that it began  to drip ( instead of spraying ).      So much fuel had acculumated in the combustion chamber resulting in huge hydraulic knocks on the crankshaft bearings.     The Pfaser is also a direct  injection diesel prone to the same sort of damage.       The older Perkins 4 - 236 on the other hand is a pre-chambered engine.    In which case , if an injector starts dripping,  then the pre-chamber offers its construction to disperse drips or pissing into spray before reaching the piston crown.            It looks as if our customer will now have to buy a new engine.            Yours cautious - LR-exporter
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Re:VEGETABLE OIL?

Date Posted:21/11/2005 03:26:15Copy HTML

Hi ,L/Rover Exporter,


                                              Well,    I guess thats what you get after pissing into the combustion chamber !!!!!   

                                                             Is this how you get      a Dodgy Dick ?

                                                             Sorry L/R , No offence intended .  I could n`t resist a bit of humour.

                                                             What we uncouth Brits would call    " Taking the Piss !!!"          

                                                                                                                                                                        regards  JB   

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one of the veg oil debates can be found HERE
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Date Posted:21/11/2005 05:48:42Copy HTML

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Hi ,L/Rover Exporter, Well, I guess thats what you get afterpissinginto the combustion chamber !!!!!&nb
Hi JFB 350.          "Piss" in german has the same meaning as in english ! So be carefull when visiting germany.               "Piss-off" = "Verpiss dich ".  Wherby "dich " does not mean "dick".                 Further a "Pisser"is a nautical term desribing the thin light rope thrown from a ship whilst docking, used to haul in the attached heavy rope for tye-up. Being "Sachsen" =  Anglo-"Saxon" it might have the same meaning in english.    I think we,ll should return to technical !   rgds  LR-exporter
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Ich glaube, sie haben recht.          Prosit !       JFB 


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I don't need to start a german language section now do I?
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I don't need to start a german language section now do I?

                     Perhaps you`ll be starting a M. Benz   508  - Vario   club  Next if you do !

                                            Wir werden unser Moglichstes tun, um Sie zufriedenzustellen.


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Date Posted:22/11/2005 08:37:39Copy HTML

Flocky-nocky-naphillipa-illifercation

not sure of the spelling on that one but it means knocking something you know nowt about.
I know nothing about Mercs or the German language.
So I won't knock it.
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Date Posted:28/11/2005 03:30:36Copy HTML

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 For our Dodge 50 Pfaser we save almost 50 % on fuel when compared to its factory supplied condition, but still use diesel fuel.

Hi IR

how do you acheive that?

cheers

Al

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Re:VEGETABLE OIL?

Date Posted:14/05/2007 07:22:33Copy HTML

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Reply to : shibbynat1Hello you all. I have a 4 litre dodge 1993 model phaser. Does any one know how i would go about running on vegetable oil as i use it daily and i am now skint due to the greedy engine.ThanksHi Shippynatl. - - Before changing to veg-oil, I recommend adopting every other means of fuel economy first. See archives. For our Dodge 50 Pfaser we save almost 50 % on fuel when compared to its factory supplied condition, but still use diesel fuel.
please tell me how you can achieve 50% better fuel economy
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Don't try staight veg oil with a 6247 the injection pump is only just up to the job at the best of times cold oil will push it over the edge, you might get away with a 2 tank system being sure to get the oil nice and hot (i.e thin) before you switch over and give it a good purge with diesel before you shut off if you are going to be stopped for any length of time. It might just be easier to build a reactor and convert it to Bio-Diesel..

Good luck
Giles
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Thanks for your advice with that. My situation has actually changed and i am now selling up. Do you have any advice for starting it? I have been parked up for a while and foolishly did not run the engine. Any help would be good!!!

 

Many thanks,

Nat

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Reply to Strange Rover (16/11/2005 19:36:44).
Don't try staight veg oil with a 6247 the injection pump is only just up to the job at the best of times cold oil will push it over the edge, you might get away with a 2 tank system being sure to get the oil nice and hot (i.e thin) before you switch over and give it a good purge with diesel before you shut off if you are going to be stopped for any length of time. It might just be easier to build a reactor and convert it to Bio-Diesel..



Good luck

Giles

be carfull with that rubish in the pumps as it melts  ruber components(parts)( that bio muck that over prised) sory crap speller work with me here, its due to the alcoholl from that other stuff that they mix with it better chek first to see if you engine can take it, and here is a small tip if you need to heat the oil up first then look in the engine bay of a french car the older one had a small oild fillter that was also pre heated with water from the engine :o)

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Date Posted:25/04/2010 11:30:29Copy HTML

Cold Starting!
My Dodge 50 sits for months over the winter. I know it's not good for it, but I rarely have trouble starting.
It's always good to disconnect the battery if you're planning to leave it stood for a while. If you haven't done this, then disconnect and put on over night charge.

My best and obvious tip for starting a cold engine is to raise the bonnet and let the sun get on it a while. It really works well. use a mirror to reflect light if it's facing the wrong way. Then prime the lift pump B4 starting.
I do this for both my vehicles, as also have a perkins 4203 in my Landrover, which I'm converting to a duel fuel system, as it has a second fuel tank.

I have a book called "From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank" by Joshua Tickell, which I believe is the bible for duel fuel and convertions.
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Date Posted:25/04/2010 12:42:37Copy HTML

 Do you know how the thermostart works for a cold engine on a dodge 50?
If not this link will take you to the correct way to do it, good tips though.




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