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Dadee666
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Date Posted:14/06/2013 10:04:33Copy HTML

FYI.

All the (30 year old) shocks had died on my Mk1 S56 & I experienced the thrills of dangerous wallowing (See last paragraph).

Karrier still has a stock of new original Mk1 (theaded spike both ends) fronts (but no rears). 0777 864 3304 ask for Greg

I contacted many sources/manufacturers for Mk1 (threaded spike on top, ring bush on botton) replacement rears.

Most said "no chance".

ZF, (the parents of the firm who made the originals) sent me their latest product specification pdf (copy forwarded to Karrier for ref.). There are no shocks currently being produced by them which will shut down enough.  However, they can probably remanufacture the shocks if we order at least 100 (at a cost of around £15,000). Their (very helpful) engineer is matthew.whitehead@zf.com 
 
SPAX - Their engineer Tony Shakeshaft (also very helpful) engineering@spaxperformance.com , said that they can make new shocks to all sorts of specs & should be able to make a pair to deal with the 4 tonne rear axle loading of my S56 camper. I sent him a drawing with all the measurements of the originals & he designed a new one to match. 
The Spax ref No. for this shock is G9357 SPAX06GASKr1311
The cost was £115 +VAT per shock +delivery (a shade under £300 total for the pair). They were made & delivered within 7 days.  They look similar to the originals & are an exact fit.     They are gas filled & are adjustable (little black thumb knob on front), having 28 levels of "hardness".  I have fitted them on their minimum (factory preset) setting & will experiment with the "hardness" over the next few weeks (until (just before) all my crockery starts rattling around). 

UPDATE:
These shocks are working  fine. I have the "clicks" set at 14 out of 28 (with an actual loading of 3 tonnes on the back axle).

Mk2 shocks (Longer) can also be made up if you send Tony the original dimensions (& mention the above ref No. for the Mk1).
PLEASE PUT THE MK2 SPAX REF IN THIS THREAD  (to keep all the info together)




I hope the picture has come out, i will send a copy to greg just in case - Thanks Greg.

Rod

Edited to add the picture for ya Rod :) - Thanks Karrier.


VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU HAVE DISSASEMPLED YOUR SPRING STACKS (upgrading etc.):
DO NOT, NOT, NOT USE GREASE OR OIL
When reassembling your spring stacks. This will make your Dodge handle like a "matress" & you will have to dismantle the spring stack again & clean it all off. (like i did).   
Greased springs should only be used on old CARS, where the sliding of the layers softens the "ride".
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Re:Replacing your shock absorbers

Date Posted:14/06/2013 05:19:34Copy HTML

 Nice one Rod, just need to mention the MK2 is similar just longer,  does not have eye fitting top and bottom, same as above, pin at top and eye fitting at bottom.

Those shockers would probably fit a mk s56, years ago i was sent a set of mk1 rears by renault head office to test on a mk2 to see what happened, i sent them to someone for free who tried them out and they seemed ok, though they then never got back in touch, i think they thought they would have to pay for them, they didn't have to though, i really wanted to know how they got on after a year or so.

Renault then gathered a bunch of mk1 rears to have available to mk2 owners, they had quite a lot of them, around 40 pairs, some stupid feckin idiot went and skipped the lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh how stupid eh?
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Re:Replacing your shock absorbers

Date Posted:24/06/2013 06:34:34Copy HTML

Hi,

Do you guys know what the difference is between these two front shock part numbers as I have found some NOS for front shock part 34920300 but the shocks on my G reg MKII is 38884800? They look like they will fit and both shocks are listed as (SL36) SHOCK ABSORBER.

Thanks,
Andy
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Re:Replacing your shock absorbers

Date Posted:26/06/2013 07:55:08Copy HTML

good work Rod

the rear shocks on the S75 4WD are a different spec again (larger diameter top stud, longer 'reach' etc.) - would be useful to find a source ...
it seemed like a good idea at the time
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Re:Replacing your shock absorbers

Date Posted:30/06/2013 11:28:01Copy HTML

Reply to ae1280 (24/06/2013 18:34)

Hi,

Do you guys know what the difference is between these two front shock part numbers as I have found some NOS for front shock part 34920300 but the shocks on my G reg MKII is 38884800? They look like they will fit and both shocks are listed as (SL36) SHOCK ABSORBER.

Thanks,
Andy

Hi
i will check the part numbers for you, if one is for the mk1 dodge 50 they won't fit as the mk1 has a smaller in length, thinner and the top and bottom pins are half the thickness so won't fit a mk2.
The SL36 means Shelf Life 36 months.
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Date Posted:30/06/2013 11:31:28Copy HTML

 nope they won't fit your vehicle as they are for mk1 vehicles only, I have a set of decent second hand mk2 shocks with decent rubbers, no leaks or rust, let me know if you want to talk about them 07778643304 Greg
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Re:Replacing your shock absorbers

Date Posted:12/07/2013 09:56:11Copy HTML

Reply to chugg89 (26/06/2013 20:55)

good work Rod

the rear shocks on the S75 4WD are a different spec again (larger diameter top stud, longer 'reach' etc.) - would be useful to find a source ...

Chugg,

Speak to Tony Shakeshaft the engineer @ Spax 01869 244771  engineering@spaxperformance.com . He is very knowledgable & can probably produce some suitable shocks.   They will then give them a product number for anyone to re-order.  

They make their shocks from scratch, like they did my Mk1 rears (after i sent them a detailed drawing,   (They also offered to re-manufacture them again if they didn’t work properly on my road test.)


If you do order some then please put the product number into the “Replacing your shock absorbers” thread (& any road test comments) for general future reference

Regards,
Rod  

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Re:Replacing your shock absorbers

Date Posted:17/07/2013 11:21:06Copy HTML

This is one of those brilliant helpful ones that needs to be pinned to the top of the category super work rod
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