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Date Posted:12/11/2006 03:24:11Copy HTML

I am looking at setting my s75 bus up as a display vehicle for green energy. It will be "is" a motorcaravan but i wish to display a couple of working wind turbines and some solar panels etc to show how people can generate their own power. How would this idea fair under the mot exempt law as a display vehicle? 14. Vehicles constructed or adapted for, and used primarily for the purpose of carrying equipment permanently fixed to the vehicle which equipment is used for medical, dental, veterinary, health, educational, display, clerical or experimental laboratory purposes, such use a. not directly involving the sale, hire or loan of goods from the vehicle; and b. not directly or indirectly involving drain cleaning or sewerage or refuse collection. Cheers alan
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:12/11/2006 03:50:44Copy HTML

I would have thought that under that section it would be fine, a friend got vosa'ed and when he said his was a mobile classroom so no mot they laughed, then checked it up after he phoned me and all was fine, so section 14 will cover you.

The vehicle's main purpose must be the display / education side but you can have simple living as well, bed, bog, sink, ect...

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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:13/11/2006 01:59:33Copy HTML

        You can also claim mot exemption if the vehicle is dual purpose. I do not know the particulars of this law, but a mate of mine has a Bristol SUL single deck bus, which is living vehicle in the front 70%, and fitted workshop in the rear portion. He had it inspected at a ministry testing station, and they had no problems with it being exempted.   Just a thought............PD

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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:13/11/2006 03:28:13Copy HTML

Cheers,
the dual purpose bit amuses me as that would include my landy ?

I would probably be safer then going for the dual purpose as they may not see it as primarily a display vehicle if its a motor caravan as well.
Anybody wanna buy a wind turbine? LOL

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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:21/11/2006 06:46:04Copy HTML

Reply to : gruntyv8

Cheers,the dual purpose bit amuses me as that would include my landy ?I would probably be safer then going for the dual purpose as they may not see it asprimarilya display vehicle if its a motor caravan as well.Anybody wanna buy a wind turbine? LOLAl
would like to buy a wind turbine.  Could you post up some specs and prices please? cheers, H.
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:07/12/2006 05:34:17Copy HTML

hi gang new member here.In answer to question of MOT on said vehicle,I can CONFIRM you are spot on as i have a similar vehicle exempt MOT and it was clarified by senior engineer at HGV test station and HE checked also with DVLA there and then.This was only 4wks ago
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:06/09/2008 05:43:24Copy HTML

Hi another new member here that can also CONFIRM the MOT situation. We have an s75 with fairground organ built in the back and basic living in the front 4 ft and luton. VOSA confirmed 2 weeks ago that this is MOT exempt as the display is permenantly bolted to the vehicle.

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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:07/09/2008 11:54:09Copy HTML

i see on the 112 form it states a mot cert has to be produced when attempting to mot exempt your truck or have i missed somthing..or is it for other trucks

Test Certificates
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1. A current test certificate or certificate of temporary exemption must be produced with an application for a heavy goods vehicle if the vehicle is one to which section 53(2) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 applies by virtue of the Goods Vehicles (Plating and Testing) Regulations 1988. In cases of doubt, the Regulations should be consulted, but their general effect is that goods vehicles over 3500kgs gross weight (revenue weight for Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) purposes) are subject to testing
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Date Posted:07/09/2008 05:18:33Copy HTML

See the note under that one, this is the one which you need to read, it is for the list on the otherside of the form.
That is the exemption bit.

2. Classes of vehicle to which Section 53(2) does not apply

are specified in the Schedule to the Regulations
see overleaf or above as the case my be ).  (see the V112g reverse side)



If you consider your vehicle meets one of these

descriptions, you must complete the declaration on the

relicensing application (V10/V11) and submit one of

these forms for exemption on each occasion that a licence

is applied for.
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:03/07/2009 04:50:42Copy HTML

mot excempt  or not i have dodge 46  pickup   4600  is it mot excempt on dual purpose v112 form or not m8
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:03/07/2009 05:41:42Copy HTML

 If you go to buy tax with a v112g instead of an mot you can say it is exempt as dual purpose and should get tax, but if you get stopped by vosa, what are you going to say it is exempted for, what is it's dual purpose?

I will say this though, as long as the vehicle is in tip top condition and they find no faults if stopped, you might be asked to get an mot or they might just let you go on, depends on how you answer the 'it's a dual purpose vehicle because' question and if they believe you.

A friend was pulled by vosa a couple of years ago, he phoned me from the vosa stop point as he had his vehicle exempt as a mobile education unit, vosa spoke to me on the phone and I pointed out that it was exempt due to being a mobile classroom (which it was) and they let him go with this condition, he uprated the vehicle to 6.600kgs as it wa sonly a 4600kgs vehicle and it was over weight at 6.300kgs. He replaced the brake vaccum servo and road springs to S66, got it uprated and bobs ya uncle, still MOT exempt.
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:04/07/2009 03:43:52Copy HTML

my dodge 50 4600   pickup   is a tipper allso  does this count as dual purpose
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Date Posted:04/07/2009 07:10:08Copy HTML

 Unless you have another use for it, like a living section (crew cab with living conversion for example) I don't see how it can be dual purpose. If you had a display sign attached permenently then you could use section 14 as a display vehicle, maybe.

If it was 4x4 then you could use dual purpose, or if the vehicle has 2 real uses then you could get away with it but as a standard tipper, the answer is no. Though you can still appy for exemption and would most likely get it you would still need to prove why it is exempt if you are stopped.

You might get away with works vehicle but they are restricted use and if you are miles away from home then again, it would not apply in the eyes of VOSA.


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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:04/07/2009 09:25:21Copy HTML

i allso use it for towing and recovery of my other vehicles i have wouldnt this count as dual purpase
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:06/07/2009 09:05:01Copy HTML

Perhaps best to ask your self .........Is this a specific special purpose vehicle seen through the eyes of VOSA or am I just trying to avoid MOT    Because they will make you get it mot`d anyway if its not genuine.
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Date Posted:06/07/2009 08:38:01Copy HTML

 As JFB says.

But if it had a spec lift on permenently it could be registered as a recovery but I think you might be clutching at straws here, sorry.
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:27/08/2009 08:18:51Copy HTML

i got a dodge 50 s46 pickup the green one on  the forum web page ive put a harvey frost recovery jib on back and gonna tax it as recovery vehicle so that should give me mot excempt i hope i am right all you dodgers out there............................................
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Date Posted:29/08/2009 02:23:18Copy HTML

 If it has permenant recovery equipment fitted and no load space (you can't carry a load unless it is for use of recovery services) then it can be exempted legally BUT if you are stopped by vosa and they find fault you will get a prohibition  notice (PG9) and most likely have to have a full plating if there are a few faults found.

Roadworthiness Prohibition - PG9

Issued by VOSA in respect of mechanical defects, condition of bodywork, immediate and delayed are issued depending on the severity of the defect.

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Date Posted:29/01/2010 11:10:44Copy HTML

 Why are some vehicles MOT exempt? What is the idea behind it?
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Date Posted:30/01/2010 09:47:53Copy HTML

Some vehicles are exempt due to the extra equipment that has been installed making testing unviable.
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Date Posted:12/02/2010 12:02:43Copy HTML

 you mean they can't physically carry it out? An example please?
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:12/02/2010 10:22:51Copy HTML

It worries me a bit that there are trucks out there, not being regularly tested due to being exempt. Okay, most of us will do checks on our motors and will probably do better repairs than any garage but do the MOT exempt trucks have to be checked atall or is it only when they are pulled over by the traffic commisioners ? I can see the financial benefits of not forking out the rip-off £55 every year but it is reassuring to get my truck checked at the MOT station every year...or have I missed something?
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Date Posted:12/02/2010 05:08:37Copy HTML

 #20 / 21 have a read through this thread   http://dodge50.aimoo.com/REGULATIONS-AND-LAW/Goods-vehicle-testing-exempt-vehicles-1-1002860.html  many vehicles will come under the categories for exemption.

Most vehicles that are exempt will be kept on the road by experienced mechanics / vehicle builders.

Showmans vehicles for example are exempted due to the fact that they fit all sorts of bodies to their vehicles which make them untestable under the plating regulations.
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:15/04/2010 07:13:31Copy HTML

i got a s46 tipper with a man eggerton recovery  crane on the rear im running on a v112g  excempt i got stopped by the police for a routine check they found a couple of faults but let me go they didnt want to do the paper work i think it must of been knocking off time 4 them
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Date Posted:15/04/2010 07:40:55Copy HTML

 Bet that made you feel good, most police have no idea what a V112G is and it gives you the edge when mentioninging it and as you say, the paperwork probably put them off too.
So what faults did they find?
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Re:mot exempt?

Date Posted:18/04/2010 07:47:46Copy HTML

the police picked up on a rear light dim and a rear mud guard loose just petty things
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