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(Date Posted:04/09/2008 14:46:58)

Hi all i am new to the forum and no doubt be asking allot more as i have been offerd one but wanted to know one thing..i want to know if this truck is 5.5 ton and also i am told it will only need a class 7 MOT and also be alble to drive it without HGV licence etc the plate reads as follows :
  
Also been told no operators licence is required or pr required??
4600
   7100
1 - 1950kg
2 - 3200kg

i am told that you add the two last figure together which give 5.5 ton????

and could somone point me to more info on these trucks..all i know they have a dam good engine???
i have the chassi number if it helps  SD9B46AOCHD217145
ITS A DODGE RENAULT

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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 02:55:14)

 Hi there

OK the vehicle is actually a 4.600kgs taxation class vehicle, meaning it can be loaded up to 4.600kgs maximum. as it is a chassis cab it most likely has a box on the back, depending on your licience (did you pass before jan 1997) you can drive without a hgv licience, if you passed your test after jan 97 then you would need to do another test to be able to drive vehicles between 3500kgs and 7500kgs.

OR if the vehicle weighs less than around 3200 to 3300kgs then it can quite easily and cheaply be downrated to 3.500kgs PGV taxation class.
Most chassis cabs weighed around 2200kgs so depending on whats on the back it might sit under 3.500kgs.
If it weighs 3.500kgs then it will be too heavy as you need to be able to put stuff in it and drive it etc.
some tips are to not have a full tank of fuel, water, gas etc when being weighed.

It can be class 1V mot if it is a motorhome or class V11if it is a commercial vehicle between 3000kgs and 3500kgs.

If it is over 3500kgs it will be classed as private hgv 3500to 7500kgs.

I hope that helps.

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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 07:54:56)

thanks it has a front cab and tipper back on it and i passed my test  1984   i also have the chassi number if that helps??

sd9b46aochd217145 ..still confused..i would like to know as its up for sale but dont want to buy for above reasons if i cannot use it etc?
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 07:56:30)

 also what do those numbers mean on the plate:

4600
7100
1 - 1950
2 - 3200
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 10:19:04)

4600 is the MVW (maximum vehicle weight) when fully loaded

7100 is the MTW (maximum train weight) vehicle plus trailer combined must not exceed 7100kgs

1950 is the maximum weight allowed on the front axle*

3200 is the maximum weight allowed on the rear axle*

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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 11:08:55)

Hi there

OK the vehicle is actually a 4.600kgs taxation class vehicle, meaning it can be loaded up to 4.600kgs maximum. as it is a chassis cab it most likely has a box on the back, depending on your licience (did you pass before jan 1997) you can drive without a hgv licience, if you passed your test after jan 97 then you would need to do another test to be able to drive vehicles between 3500kgs and 7500kgs.

OR if the vehicle weighs less than around 3200 to 3300kgs then it can quite easily and cheaply be downrated to 3.500kgs PGV taxation class.
Most chassis cabs weighed around 2200kgs so depending on whats on the back it might sit under 3.500kgs.
If it weighs 3.500kgs then it will be too heavy as you need to be able to put stuff in it and drive it etc.
some tips are to not have a full tank of fuel, water, gas etc when being weighed.

It can be class 1V mot if it is a motorhome or class V11if it is a commercial vehicle between 3000kgs and 3500kgs.

If it is over 3500kgs it will be classed as private hgv 3500to 7500kgs.
Hi there

OK the vehicle is actually a 4.600kgs taxation class vehicle, meaning it can be loaded up to 4.600kgs maximum. as it is a chassis cab it most likely has a box on the back, depending on your licience (did you pass before jan 1997) you can drive without a hgv licience, if you passed your test after jan 97 then you would need to do another test to be able to drive vehicles between 3500kgs and 7500kgs.

OR if the vehicle weighs less than around 3200 to 3300kgs then it can quite easily and cheaply be downrated to 3.500kgs PGV taxation class.
Most chassis cabs weighed around 2200kgs so depending on whats on the back it might sit under 3.500kgs.
If it weighs 3.500kgs then it will be too heavy as you need to be able to put stuff in it and drive it etc.
some tips are to not have a full tank of fuel, water, gas etc when being weighed.

It can be class 1V mot if it is a motorhome or class V11if it is a commercial vehicle between 3000kgs and 3500kgs.

If it is over 3500kgs it will be classed as private hgv 3500to 7500kgs.

I hope that helps.
I hope that helps.

so having passed my test in 84..old git that i am..lol....i should be able to drive it legal like for personel use but it has to have a class 7 MOT etc..

but how do i tell its actull weight of the truck itself?..problem is it is not MOT at the mo and taking it to weigh bridge would get me in the poo if stopped et...i know it staes 4600 on log book??
i also know the reg if any help to anyone?

sorry to ask the above but i aint got a clue??
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 11:11:00)

 
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 11:11:45)

 or if you could help i could give you my telephone number to talk it over etc??
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 14:06:50)

can anyone explain as i have totally missed the point..i need to give the chap a desion on the truck
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:05/09/2008 15:10:35)

 Have PM'ed you my mobile number, phone me and i will explain.

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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:06/09/2008 03:52:16)

 Ok all has been explained by phone but here is a summary for anyone else.

1. passed test in oct 84 so can drive up to 7500kgs no problem.
2. vehicle taxation class is Private hgv as over 3500kgs (4600kgs)
3. can be downrated to the 3500kgs private goods vehicle class (depending on actual weight being less than 3200kgs)
4. Thats about it.

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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:06/09/2008 06:42:35)

 Big thanks to Karrier for helping me out and taking th time to do so..

the only obstical now is to get it home without MOT?????...
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:13/09/2008 08:19:32)

 
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:13/09/2008 08:21:30)

well it lives!!!

the dodge i bought is now legal and taxed and on the road i am gonna pick her up this afternoon and driver her back home !!!

cheers Karrier for all the help..ps PM you bud
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RE:confused ?? hello
(Date Posted:13/09/2008 08:23:25)

 Karrier can you explain in lay mans terms how a go about down rating step by step?
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